New ODA "active case"?

[Redlyne Racer]

Posted at another venue by someone purporting to be Alan Contreras:

Owing to an active case, we are seeking information about the involvement of Richard J. Hoyer of New York in various fake schools.

We know that he is involved in the fake College of Homeland Security and is one of the rent-a-perps in the St. Regis - James Monroe - Robertstown University et al. frauds based in Washington State and using false Liberian documentation.

Does anyone know of any other fake colleges with which Mr. Hoyer has a connection (besides his local pseudo-medical garbage emitter in Rochester) ?

Please contact me privately if needed at alan.L.contreras@state.or.us


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Alan L. Contreras
Administrator
Oregon Office of Degree Authorization
Oregon Student Assistance Commission

Also this one:

It is a good story on Professor Gollin. I especially like the reference to his opponents as "organized crime" by former FBI agent Ezell. If that means Richard J. Hoyer, Dixie Scamtalk and company, I'm surprised that they are considered "organized." A more obvious, stumbling bunch of third-string trailer-park hounds would be hard to imagine. Who would buy a degree from this group, every one of whom has been named in the media already?


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Alan L. Contreras
Administrator
Oregon Office of Degree Authorization
Oregon Student Assistance Commission



Not clear from his posts exactly what it is that Mr. Contreras has an active case of, but the style (e.g., "pseudo-medical garbage emitter," "rent-a-perps," "stumbling bunch of third-string trailer-park hounds") seems more consistent with the pranksters at the alt.education.distance forum than with a government official.

The reappearance of Contreras coincides with a media blitz by Gollin, also directed at the Regis v. SRU defendants.

http://www.news-gazette.com/localnews/story.cfm?Number=18449

Sounds like another big ODA showdown on the horizon. Will Contreras show up for the game this time?

[James Grey]

Posted at another venue by someone purporting to be Alan Contreras:



Also this one:



Not clear from his posts exactly what it is that Mr. Contreras has an active case of, but the style (e.g., "pseudo-medical garbage emitter," "rent-a-perps," "stumbling bunch of third-string trailer-park hounds") seems more consistent with the pranksters at the alt.education.distance forum than with a government official.

The reappearance of Contreras coincides with a media blitz by Gollin, also directed at the Regis v. SRU defendants.

http://www.news-gazette.com/localnews/story.cfm?Number=18449

Sounds like another big ODA showdown on the horizon. Will Contreras show up for the game this time?

At some stage there is going to be a big something happen somewhere, somehow to somebody/somepeople. This game has been played too fast and too loose for too long.

You only have to look at the drivel, the inuendos, the fraudulent information, the purposeful misinformation, the false webpages and titles/honours, the relentless repetition of postings ... the whole thing has to explode or implode.

Education once was education, and then it was taken over by businesses and become a commodity. Now it has been taken over by crooks on a large scale and has become a farce. You cannot fight them, and you will never win.

I am glad that my degrees [a] stack up, [b] are genuine and above reproach, and [c] leave the present proliferated raft of even accredited degrees in the shade. It was bloody hard work but it was worth it. I don't need to explain, I don't need to apologise and I don't need to forever be looking over my shoulder. I do however wonder if the days of true education for education's sake is over.

Whether Contreras has been the author or not is a moot point. Is he prepared for the fallout from such a statement? A fallout from going so outright as a public official, and the fallout from crossing swords with people who have millions of dollars of potential revenue at stake?

I think that a line has been drawn in the sand and really the only safe position is in the shelter of truly accredited education. Some will ask what that is, and the question is a reasonable one, and if anyone had been working with what I have been these past 2 weeks with a highly respectable accredited institution of higher education, the answer to the question today is quite scary.

Do I make sense? To some, yes. Get the highest degree you can from the best institution that you can and let the rabble destroy themselves by themselves, and find a life and get on with it.

I leave the discussion of higher education with 2 sayings that bear consideration:

1. If you sleep with dogs, you get fleas.

2. If you wrestle with a pig, you get covered in sh*t, and only the pig enjoys it.

Au revoir.

[dr. latin juris]

The new ODA label to Akamai University is very reasonable. That new label is great for both. (That is a good move Alan; is very realistic)

Nevertheless, in order to treat all the legal universities in the same way, the other US Legal universities deserve the same label of Akamai.

[Dennis Ruhl]

Remember not to believe anything on aed. Gus Sainz's public challenge of the IRS is a classic (not to say humorous) example of misinformation.

While I know that some of the stuff posted is really Gollin, I'm not positive all of it is. As to whether it is Richard Hoyer of Rochester, I couldn't guess.

[Redlyne Racer]

Someone who apparently is one of Gollin's admirers posted an article at aed quoting Gollin describing his opponents as "disgusting monsters" and "sons of bitches who smell money."
(http://indy.pabn.org/news.php?id=140)

Now we see Contreras emerging from his recent hibernation to throw another public tantrum, lobbing niceties like "garbage emitter," "rent-a-perp," etc. at his foes.

CCU was one of the major whipping boys at the Senate "degree mill" hearings at which Contreras testified. Yet within a year CCU became nationally accredited, and its president now is reported to be serving on DETC committees. Not the first thing you would think of when you read a news article slamming "degree mills."

This all suggests that those who fancy themselves to be the crusaders against evil are continuing to take a dangerously broad and irrational approach to their little hobby. Given the recent revelations about their private lives, one has to wonder if they have the sort of judgment and perspective in these matters that is consistent with community standards and the public interest.

Just as a contrast, we see Jeff Brunton quietly and efficiently running the snakes out of Hawaii. As far as I can tell he hasn't picked on any schools based on their having religious or "holistic" programs he didn't like. He hasn't proclaimed anyone to be a "son of a bitch" or even a "trailer park hound."

The extremism that we have seen in the past and now see again from Contreras raises the issue of what sort of scattergun justice is going to be applied to his new "active case." Has he found another Christian fundamentalist school to attack because he doesn't like their views on homosexuality? Or is it someone else with a political view or personal outlook that just generally annoys him or one of his extremist cohorts?

The irony here is that while the zany aed posts are very clearly satirical and humorous in intent, the outbursts of Contreras and Gollin seem to be born of unchecked emotion and are deadly serious, which makes them all the more outrageous and ultimately lethally dangerous to academic freedom.

If, as Contreras states, Hoyer and his scurvy crew are "stumbling" and disorganized, why haven't the graceful and orderly Contreras and Gollin captured and convicted them all yet? So far they have been long on self-promotion and propaganda, and short on any meaningful action. It's no surprise those two are such popular objects of public derision on uncensored forums, and altogether fitting that they should be.