RA_Ph.D.
01-31-2005, 10:55 PM
"Validity of non-U.S. degrees in Oregon
We have had several inquiries about how the Kennedy-Western settlement language will affect the way ODA handles foreign degrees. The answer is, not much, because they are covered by different sections of the law.
In Oregon, foreign degrees must have the "foreign equivalent" of U.S. accreditation, which means that the question of accredited vs. unaccredited does not really come up. What does come up, of course, is whether the foreign supplier in fact has that equivalent.
We have found that the single best way to make this determination is to require the foreign supplier to show that its degrees can be used inside its country of approval on the same basis as any other degrees issued there. This factor separates 99 percent of the skunks from the sheep.
From our point of view, if degrees issued by an entity that is licensed as a business in, to pick a nation at random, Denmark, cannot be used as credentials inside Denmark, then the degrees are inherently invalid as emanating from an entity without true legal authority to issue degrees. To put it another way, an entity such as, to pick a name at random, Knightsbridge, issues degrees under the same legal authority as would a fish processor or lumber mill.
Oregon still bans the use of such degrees as inherently false.
__________________
Alan L. Contreras
Administrator
Oregon Office of Degree Authorization
Oregon Student Assistance Commission"
This blantant intellectual fascism and attack on the freedom to learn, to teach and to be awarded and use a status within a learning society (a degree within a university or college) evidenced by Alan Contreas' remarks are horryfying in a free society. Certainly, we have above no answer to the problem of degree mills but rather a much greater problem of the establishment a governmental degree police who have not a clue about non-U.S. degrees. ODA has set itself up as a unversal, world-wide accreditation agency with the force of state power behind it. ODA has no educational competence as a world-wide accreditation organization. This farce would be ludicrous if it were not an actual legal problem for real people in real life, and more, a possible model for further government internvention in matters where it has no real business nor comptent standing.
When government(= big business) controls all education by legal fiat, denying the right to display non-government approved degrees for employment purposes, then we have no possibility of dissenting educational structures in society. Contreras and crew are, indeed, BIG BROTHER, very dangerous, tolalitarian anti-intellectuals, and they deserve full opposition by all thinking minds. :mad: :mad: :mad:
We have had several inquiries about how the Kennedy-Western settlement language will affect the way ODA handles foreign degrees. The answer is, not much, because they are covered by different sections of the law.
In Oregon, foreign degrees must have the "foreign equivalent" of U.S. accreditation, which means that the question of accredited vs. unaccredited does not really come up. What does come up, of course, is whether the foreign supplier in fact has that equivalent.
We have found that the single best way to make this determination is to require the foreign supplier to show that its degrees can be used inside its country of approval on the same basis as any other degrees issued there. This factor separates 99 percent of the skunks from the sheep.
From our point of view, if degrees issued by an entity that is licensed as a business in, to pick a nation at random, Denmark, cannot be used as credentials inside Denmark, then the degrees are inherently invalid as emanating from an entity without true legal authority to issue degrees. To put it another way, an entity such as, to pick a name at random, Knightsbridge, issues degrees under the same legal authority as would a fish processor or lumber mill.
Oregon still bans the use of such degrees as inherently false.
__________________
Alan L. Contreras
Administrator
Oregon Office of Degree Authorization
Oregon Student Assistance Commission"
This blantant intellectual fascism and attack on the freedom to learn, to teach and to be awarded and use a status within a learning society (a degree within a university or college) evidenced by Alan Contreas' remarks are horryfying in a free society. Certainly, we have above no answer to the problem of degree mills but rather a much greater problem of the establishment a governmental degree police who have not a clue about non-U.S. degrees. ODA has set itself up as a unversal, world-wide accreditation agency with the force of state power behind it. ODA has no educational competence as a world-wide accreditation organization. This farce would be ludicrous if it were not an actual legal problem for real people in real life, and more, a possible model for further government internvention in matters where it has no real business nor comptent standing.
When government(= big business) controls all education by legal fiat, denying the right to display non-government approved degrees for employment purposes, then we have no possibility of dissenting educational structures in society. Contreras and crew are, indeed, BIG BROTHER, very dangerous, tolalitarian anti-intellectuals, and they deserve full opposition by all thinking minds. :mad: :mad: :mad: